not by tpapping but you can have your Audiologist add a Sphere only program that you can activate in the Phonak app. Would be nice to have user access to the info which program is currently activated in automatic mode. Not sure why not, it is being logged in the aid.
Apologies if this has been answered earlier. I am currently trialling a pair of Phonak Audéo Sphere I70’s. Long time wearer (since 2003) and I’m really happy after the first week of wearing these. In the MyPhonak app on my iPhone, under My hearing aids, I see this:
Model left: Audéo I70 Sphere Model right: Audéo I70 Sphere
My questions:
Are these the Infinio series platform with the additional DeepSonic chip?
If yes, do my I70 (Advanced) model have limitations when compared to the I90 (Premium) model? If so, what are they?
Is there an actual line of aids called Audéo Sphere and another called Audéo Sphere Infinio?
The naming structure is extremely confusing (at least to me). I’ve researched online and on the Phonak site and I know there are differences between the I70 and I90, but with no confirmation on exactly what pair I am trialling, I cannot determine what features I have and/or don’t have. My audiologist did not provide me with the original HA box, just the charger box, so I don’t have it to check. I meet with him next week but would like more information before I see him again.
I found this blurb while googling: The key difference between a Phonak Audeo Sphere and an Audeo Sphere Infinio is that the Infinio model incorporates an additional dedicated chip called “DeepSonic” which significantly enhances speech clarity in noisy environments, making it the premium option with more advanced sound processing capabilities compared to the standard Sphere model; both are part of the Phonak Infinio line, but the Sphere Infinio offers superior AI-powered features for better speech understanding in complex soundscapes.
The above states that there is a “standard” Sphere model but I couldn’t find any mention of that on the Phonak site.
Are these the Infinio series platform with the additional DeepSonic chip?
If yes, do my I70 (Advanced) model have limitations when compared to the I90 (Premium) model? If so, what are they?
Is there an actual line of aids called Audéo Sphere and another called Audéo Sphere Infinio?
Yes,
The I70 Sphere provides speech clarity of “Moderate” while the I90 provides speech clarity of “Strong”. I don’t have a feeling of the difference between “Moderate” and “Strong.” The I90 has a Speech Enhancer which provides a boost to soft speech in the calm setting which the I70 does not. Otherwise I think they are the same.
Yes, the Audeo Sphere Infinio has an additional chip called the DeepSonic for noise reduction and a bigger battery than the Audio Infino R
I asked my dispensing audi countless times, “what features do my audeo Paradise P90R’s have, the way you’ve set them up?”
He never answered.
We don’t talk anymore; the man I see now has provided two reports.
Target User’s Report, and
Pro User’s Report
It shows me the features and programs chosen. It shows me his settings.
I don’t have your hearing aids. I have audeo Paradise P90R’s that are 3 years old.
I’m curious how well the Sphere hearing aids would perform on an airplane, especially with the pilots speaking over the loudspeakers. Has anyone tested them in that environment?
I haven’t posted an update in a while so thought I would catch up with everyone…
As I mentioned in my previous updates, I was having issues with speech clarity whenever the Infinio Sphere hearing were in the “Calm” program. I also felt that music didn’t sound as good as my Lumity L90 hearing aids. I took these issues back to my audiologist a few week ago and we determined that the performance of the new M receivers was different and he swapped out the M receivers for P receivers (both with do…
I’m curious how well the Sphere hearing aids would perform on an airplane, especially with the pilots speaking over the loudspeakers. Has anyone tested them in that environment?
I flew down to Dallas on Sunday afternoon and the Sphere’s performed flawlessly in both the airport and on the plane. I could actually hear all the announcements at the gate and in flight. They also were outstanding at a number of business lunches and dinners in very noisy restaurants. Only issue I ran into was when I had both a business lunch and dinner on the same day yesterday. Lunch was perfect. I then went to dinner later in the day. Halfway through dinner I started having issues understanding people. I checked the app and the hearing aids were no longer in the Sphere program even though the batteries were still at 40%. I then realized that between lunch and dinner I had exceeded the 3 hour daily Sphere use and AutoSense was no longer using the Spheric program. Luckily, I remembered that my audiologist had turned off this limit on the manual Sphere AI program and I was still able to manually switch to the Sphere program. Would be nice to get some kind of notification from the App when this happens.
I checked the app and the hearing aids were no longer in the Sphere program even though the batteries were still at 40%. I then realized that between lunch and dinner I had exceeded the 3 hour daily Sphere use and AutoSense was no longer using the Spheric AI program.
This is one of my main concerns with the Sphere.
“What happens when you have a long loud day or have a long flight (12+ hours)? Does it stop working? Can you override it and get back into the Spheric program? Will it last until the end of the day?”
“What happens when you have a long loud day or have a long flight (12+ hours)? Does it stop working? Can you override it and get back into the Spheric program? Will it last until the end of the day?”
Two workcases to recon with. Battery saving is or is not programmed. And that’s why I would recommend to make such a program yourself or have it made. (I explained HowTo elswhere).
Full loaded after about 5-6 hours the batteries run out of energy and you’ll get the sound of almost empty battery when programmed. But you’ll probably not hear it because of the loud sounds. So the aids stop working then. If the time limit was set they first go back to the latest program you used and you’ll hear the warning sound if set. (At about 10% battery left, so you still have about an hour).
If you want to use your aids a whole day you have to bring your charger and reload in about 1/4 to 1\2 an hour some extra fuel. Without reloading you’re always stuck after 6 hours.
These are my experiences and work arounds in visiting loud places. I use the restaurant mode if I don’t have to listen and speak to someone, which consumes less energy and works a whole day. Then now and than go to Spheric in noise in between.
At the for a hearing test, I recently learned that Phonak will today launch a new top of the line . The audiologist said she would delay my order until today to make sure I get the latest improved HA. I am scheduled to get it on 11-8. All the tech features discussed on this thread are not very important to me. I’m just looking forward to getting the best hearing improvements available.
As has been discussed, it is available in the app. I’ll go through it on more time.
Thanks for the answer. Haven’t been able to try this since i was between demos and my own. Got my own now and checked this a few times. Never seen a change in what it says there. Tried loud Music, car, restaurant. Always says Adjust Calm Situation ( Automatic)? You see this changing and reflect what the auto sense selects?
Thanks! Yes, I can now see programs switching. A bit inconvenient but helpful for diagnosing which programs maybe causing issues. What’s confusing is that it is under the “adjust” and I’m not sure that if you make adjustments to that “autosense” mode, that they’ll actually stick to the program when selected by autosense? I can save as a new program, but that’s also probably not automatically selected. Is it correct that changes to the programs selected by autosense can only be made in the target software?
What’s confusing is that it is under the “adjust” and I’m not sure that if you make adjustments to that “autosense” mode, that they’ll actually stick to the program when selected by autosense?
(For me…)
It stays in the changes you made until you close the changes screen or the phone goes to sleep. Changes aren’t permanent unless your makes changes in target. And any changes to a base program wipes out and custom programs you create. So feel free to experiment. You can tell the HCP what improved things. But they can’t (so far as I know) just import your custom program, they need to modify a base program.They can modify it so it is part of autosense, or copy it and create a new program based on a base program. The copy & new version doesn’t wipe out your custom program based on the base program. Hope this helps. It isn’t at all intuitive.
My question–are hearing aids like cars? I’ve been cautioned not to buy a new car built in the first year. It takes time to fix the built-in problems in a new design.
I switched my U.S. healthcare coverage to Medicare Advantage from UnitedHealth. They offer a US$2500 discount every three years. Their formulary only offers Infinio Spheres at the R70 level. I have always purchased at the highest R90 end in the past, but their pricing was hard to beat: US$3800/pair for the R70s, followed by the US$2500 discount netted US$1300 out of pocket. It even beats Costco’s price levels :-). I have worn the Spheres for only four days, and as yet not in very noisy environments. I’m not sure about speech clarification that is missing from the R70s, but I am looking forward to a good experience with the new Spheres. One thing that I noticed on the first day of wear: we dined at the “upscale” room in our retirement community. The noise level was not a continuous “grind,” but the quiet was punctuated with loud bursts from some diners. However, I kept hearing a bursting loud voice behind me. It was the Dining Manager. I was in the Spheric program. I realized that it was picking up speech omnidirectional. I’ve got to learn how to turn on focus in Spheric, if that is possible.