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They have recently released a new version of the CRE-C10, the C20 with rechargeable batteries.

The E10 has gone out of stock on Amazon (US), does anyone know if they are releasing a new version?

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The Sony CRE E-10 is an version of the Signia Active Pro.

Signia recently introduced an upgrade of the Actuve Pro to its new IX platform, the Active Pro IX.

SO, IT’s reasonable to expect that the E-10 will in fact be replaced by an E-20. The upgrade to the C10, the clearance sale prices of both the C-10 and the E-10, and the recent upgrade to the Active Pro all point in this direction. Given that the C-20 is already on the market, I’m guessing that it won’t be long.

Looking at the new Active Pro specs, a new cre e20 might incorporate the IX platform plus Android streaming.

But who knows as Sony has not publicly acknowledged any connection between the Sonys and the Signias nor does any of the literature on the new c20 mention the IX platform.

@thecaz said:

might incorporate the IX platform plus Android streaming.

I’m sure it will, the E10 has bluetooth streaming.
Sony will sell what Signia (WS Audiology) supply them with, as yet Sony don’t make their own .

@thecaz said:

Sony has not publicly acknowledged any connection between the Sonys and the Signias nor does any of the literature on the new c20 mention the IX platform

I don’t think it means much, you wouldn’t really think Sony is going to publicly tell everyone that we don’t actually make our own HAs, we get everything supplied by WS Audiology as part of the deal we have with them?
But I did see a video someone posted where a WS Audiology director of customer sales mentioned IX on the C20 so the platform is not going to stay on a previous one ( AX ) just makes sense for the product to move forward as they are going hard out to be the leader in going by the video.

Edit: Found the video here, from Andrew bellavia interview.

Yep, I posted that video in another thread. I don’t recall her mentioning the IX platform though. I could be wrong.

Incidentally, the c10 and e10 are based on the X platform I believe, not the AX.

Also, my point re streaming was that the e20 when released will be the first Sony to stream to Android. The e10 only streams to iPhone.

@thecaz said:

Incidentally, the c10 and e10 are based on the X platform I believe, not the AX.

Oh I thought it was AX, that makes a difference and yes your correct it’s was for hands free streaming only.

Do the signia (and so possibly the as yet nonexistent) connect with just Apple phones or do they have wider Bluetooth connectivity.

A while ago (a few years ago) I tried some Jabra Enhance hearing aids when I had some very mild hearing loss and was asking the kids to repeat themselves a little more as I cooked with the extractor on. These would only connect with my iPhone, not my Apple watch.

I was thinking about the Sony’s as a cheap(er) pair of back up aids for running etc but I would need them to connect to my watch.

Edited

enabled devices from series AX and IX connect both to Apple’s devices via and to Android via either or (with IX)

@AlexE said:

I was thinking about the Sony’s as a cheap(er) pair of back up aids for running etc but I would need them to connect to my watch.

AFAIK most of them wont connect directly to Apple watch, no matter how new. I think that’s only possible with Phonak [not sure about that though].
I know that it is possible to connect newest Pixel Watches via LE Audio.

I was actually thinking about buying both newest Signias Active IX and Pixel Watch 3 specifically for running and biking.

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@AlexE said:

I was thinking about the Sony’s as a cheap(er) pair of back up aids for running etc but I would need them to connect to my watch.

I am a big fan of the Sony, they are very comfortable, sound great, and, with the proper dome fit snuggly. BUT, they can, and do, fall out under certain conditions. And running may be one of those conditions.

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Hi,
You say that the Sony CRE E-10 is a version of the Signia Active Pro.
Are you sure that it is the Active Pro and not just the plain Active?
What makes you think so?

The reason I am asking is that the Sony’s were never available from Sony Australia, and buying from the US would bring them close to the Australian price of Signia Active. So in that case I would buy the Signia Active (now Active IX) here in Australia.

But if the new coming Sony CRE-E20 were to be equal or close in features to the new Signia Active Pro IX, it would be different. The Signia Active Pro IX is very expensive here.

I am also in Australia and had exactly the same thoughts as you before I eventually bought the Sony on ebay from a US seller who was willing to ship internationally. It wasn’t cheap!

I don’t think Sony or WSA (signia) have ever officially acknowledged the connection between the Sony and the Signia Active (Pro) so all we can do is rely on what we read and hear on the internet, for what it’s worth.

From memory, I believe I read somewhere in the specifications for the Sony that it has 48 channel signal processing (whatever that means). If so, that matches the Active Pro specification. The non-Pro is 16 channels.

I’ll be keen to investigate an E20 if it eventuates.

@thecaz said:

I don’t think Sony or WSA (signia) have ever officially acknowledged the connection between the Sony and the Signia Active (Pro) so all we can do is rely on what we read and hear on the internet, for what it’s worth.

Sorry but it’s without any doubt that the Sony are rebranded Signia models, obviously Signia and Sony aren’t going to mention this for obvious reasons.

In the end I picked up some Signia Active Pro IX (bought mine from Whoelsale Hearing) and I’ve found them to be very liveable.

They work well in noisy situations (the village comedy night, the pub on a Friday night), when cooking with the fan on and when out walking the dogs.

There have been two (minor) issues:

  • They seem to collect wax a bit more than my Power dome and open dome (L and R) Phonak Spheres. Regular nightly clean and a new once a month/6 weeks solved that.
  • When charging I had a couple of instances very early on when they did not charge overnight as they did not sit well on the pins in the case. This was easily solved by putting the L in the R slot and vice versa, no issue in the last 4 months.

The Bluetooth connection is solid but will only connect to my iPhone not to my watch.

As they are just small earbuds, no issue when wearing glasses/smart glasses or a woolly hat. My spheres get covered by my hat at this time of year, so work less well when out on the dog walk.

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The Signia Active IX and Active Pro IX hearing aids look like earbuds and provide premium audio performance in challenging situations with lots of background noise.

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@tenkan said:

Sorry but it’s without any doubt that the Sony are rebranded Signia models, obviously Signia and Sony aren’t going to mention this for obvious reasons.

No need to be sorry! I also have no doubt that the Sony is a Signia. I was merely pointing out that the manufacturers haven’t acknowledged it.

Oh then that’s my bad, I got that mixed up, of course so many brands aligned with the big 5 nowadays ; )

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