@JordanK, recently I’ve been reading a bit about programming (and sound processors for too, but that’s another story ) and I have a question about your - how was it run?
I mean, did Aud run it at 50, 65 and 80 only in the Calm situation program, where all anti-noise options were disabled?
Or was it additionally conducted in other programs?
And, for new users considering new hearing aids, but not knowing about the devices’ limitations—what is your in quiet?
I see titanium on the one I just looked at. Was this the form you saw?
Nope, guess they are getting their act together. I guess I will live with the acrylic since I have already paid for them and they seem to fit well. Have titanium for my accuvents for my Lumitys and love them. Unfortunately my hearing profile no longer fits into the accuvent range. I ordered another set of cShells which were delivered before the original order got straightened out
I mean, did Aud run it at 50, 65 and 80 dB SPL only in the Calm situation program, where all anti-noise options were disabled?
Or was it additionally conducted in other programs?
My audiologist did the testing using an Auricle Freefit device like this:
He first took out my hearing aids and did the REM with just the little tubes in my ears (no hearing aids). He then left the tubes in my ears and put my hearing aids back in and re-ran the tests. The testing was done at three different volume levels which probably match what you are saying. The testing consisted of a man’s voice reading a silly sentence like “the brown fox jumped over the…”. I believe there was also another voice that sounded like it was in another language. He used v5 and my in quiet is: R - 40%, L - 56%. I personally think it’s a bit better on the left but I get so darn nervous when they do the WRS test that I think my results end up slightly lower. After the test REM was done, the audiologist then made a bunch of adjustments to the hearing aids to make them fit closer to the target line established by the REM test. I might have missed something but that’s what I remember.
He then left the tubes in my ears and put my hearing aids back in and re-ran the tests. The testing was done at three different volume levels which probably match what you are saying.
With HA on ear but turned off - it’s measuring /REOG - Real Ear Occluded Response/Gain
With HA turned on - /REAG - Real Ear Aided Response/Gain.
“Response” - it’s sound pressure level () measured close to eardrum
“Gain” - difference between from loudspeaker vs. dB SPL near eardrum.
For example, when a loudspeaker presents a 65 dB SPL signal and at the same time, 85 dB is measured near the eardrum, there is an 85 - 65 = +20 dB gain.
He used DSL v5 and my WRS in quiet is: R - 40%, L - 56%. I personally think it’s a bit better on the left but I get so darn nervous when they do the WRS test that I think my results end up slightly lower.
Was the test performed without hearing aids? Then you manage your hearing loss quite well, considering your active life with many social and business meetings.
My surprise stems, among other things, from the fact that a WRS below 60% suggests slow consideration of , concurrently with consideration of many other factors that may render that option unnecessary.
I also thought that even the best-fitted hearing aids are unlikely to help break through that 40–56% “ceiling” of word recognition…
I also had him turn off the 3 hour limit for the Spheric AI program.
@JordanK Jordan, do you know where in Target Audi can take off the 3 hour limit? I need to ask my Audi do the same at my next appointment. Thanks to Spheric hearing aid, I am attending Christmas parties again, but the party took 3.5 hours and I was struggling at the last half hour without Spheric program.
Jordan, do you know where in Target Audi can take off the 3 hour limit?
In the Target software: there is a box to uncheck in the AutoSense OS main screen setting or in the Spheric Speech Clarity part of that automatic program.
Pro tip: If you are worried that you will soon reach the 3-hour limit, you can simply put the hearing aids in the charger, wait a while, and then put them back on. The 3-hour timer will be reset.
As @Bimodal_user says, there is a check box on the Spheric program page.
I’ve only run up against the 3 hour limit once when I had two business related restaurant meetings in one day (lunch and dinner). Parties are an issue too. Weddings were not an issue because of the music. The Sphere’s spent more than half the time in music mode.
Bear in mind that the Sphere’s don’t always stay in the Spheric program in a noisy place. I think there needs to be speech going on too.
My surprise stems, among other things, from the fact that a WRS below 60% suggests slow consideration of CI, concurrently with consideration of many other factors that may render that option unnecessary.
Yes, I’d also expect that Jordan is a possible candidate. It would be interesting to know how he does in the candidacy assessment with the Spheres. Come on @JordanK , for science! You’re not so far from Sunnybrook. Getting into the system now might be worthwhile if things change in the future.
My word recognition score is without hearing aids. With my hearing aids, I hear quite well. I don’t want to rush into yet mostly because I’m hoping the technology improves a bit more. I figure the longer I can hold off the better and luckily, my hearing loss hasn’t changed for quite a few years.
My surprise stems, among other things, from the fact that a WRS below 60% suggests slow consideration of CI, concurrently with consideration of many other factors that may render that option unnecessary.
Yes, I’d also expect that Jordan is a possible candidate. It would be interesting to know how he does in the candidacy assessment with the Spheres. Come on @JordanK , for science! You’re not so far from Sunnybrook. Getting into the system now might be worthwhile if things change in the future.
My surprise is even greater because @JordanK’s loss is flat, which theoretically should help during loud stimulation in , because every frequency can be more louder equally compared to WRS in cases with steep hearing loss.
I wonder about free field speech understanding with Spheres, also scientifically Of course, mainly in quiet because good denoising with Spheres isn’t surprising.
Pro tip: If you are worried that you will soon reach the 3-hour limit, you can simply put the hearing aids in the charger, wait a while, and then put them back on. The 3-hour timer will be reset.
Thanks. I don’t know they would reset after charging. I thought 3 hours limit is for each day, though I always wonder what time zone it uses to define a day.
I went ofc several times for the fitting (also changed for a more powerful receiver), and it took them a few days to get the in. Probably, if you call ahead, know exactly what model you want, the length of the wire of your receiver, pay on the spot and declare you are happy with whatever initial fitting they do, you could handle all in a single day (and sort things out with Target later yourself). And even in France, most people speak a variation of English. But you would need to inquire about repairs and warranties.
I went to see a new A.uD today, I was enquiring about the Phonak Infinio Spheres, I explained, I was profound on the left, and severe to profound on the right, the A.uD still thought, she could still get a reasonable fit, but after she did a pure tone test she changed her tune, she couldn’t recommend the Spheres, I understand her reasoning, but my left ear is so bad now, it’s profound across the board now, with no response dead spots… We will just have to suck it up, hopefully a Naida Sphere will appear at some point? I must say though, it was rather refreshing to hear an A.uD not recommend these aids, but she recd the benefits even in noise might be very marginal? In fact she was suggesting to leave the left unaided, the joys of hearing loss, perhaps a Cros aid at some point in the not too distant future is on the cards? Cheers Kev
. He used DSL v5 and my WRS in quiet is: R - 40%, L - 56%. I personally think it’s a bit better on the left but I get so darn nervous when they do the WRS test that I think my results end up slightly lower.
Regarding that, I have just accidentally found an outstandingly useful post from @Neville.
I always knew that every test (including , especially with fewer words) should be taken with a grain of salt, but I wasn’t aware of THAT variability. I was always tested on a set of 10 words (maybe one time of 20?) and got 90-100% unaided.
We will just have to suck it up, hopefully a Naida Sphere will appear at some point?
Fingers crossed! However, what about the earmold? I feel that you’re in a Catch-22 situation—excited for the new Naida but disheartened by the mold problem…
I tend to be rather philosophical when it comes to hearing aids, and indeed hearing loss @Bimodal_user, If you build your hopes up on certain aids, you tend to be crestfallen when expectations fail to meet your hopes, so I went in to that A.uD’s appointment fully prepared for that not recommended outcome, slightly disappointed nonetheless as it would have been lovely to try the Spheres, and perhaps hear for myself how this technology works, but alas, it wasn’t meant to be… But nothing ventured, nothing gained, and as the old adage goes, we just have to soldier on regardless… Something did hit home though, the self realisation, my left ear is basically nonfunctional, it has taken 30 odd years for this transition to happen, but it is what it is… Cheers Kev
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) and I have a question about your - how was it run?
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Toronto, Canada
Of course, mainly in quiet because good denoising with Spheres isn’t surprising.
Geneva, Switzerland
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