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In reply to @Michael_Phonak

Thanks… not familiar with Teams … for Zoom, I did try connecting with zoom audio on my iphone; it did send audio to my aids, but I had to mute myself since there was a dreadful echo when others in the room with me speaking … I guess I could try to connect to zoom audio and then put my phone in a different room, but then I probably wouldn’t be able to speak ? I sent email to audiologist to see if she knows about the Oticon Easy LE adapter that supposedly is coming - I’m hoping the adapter will work like the TV adapter, where audio streams to my aids but others can still hear … If LE adapter is a long way off, I may just invest in another TV adapter to hook up to my laptop if I can find one at a good price…

In reply to @Michael_Phonak

Well there are no Phonak hearing aids that can current do / until the Infinio gets an update. The other models don’t appear to be upgradable.

There certainly a market for hearing aid with Bluetooth classic. Not everyone has the money to upgrade their phone and other devices.

I will be interesting to see if you upgrade the Phonak Infinio to LE Audio if you lose Bluetooth classic.

LE Audio/Auracast is going to be highly desirable if it lives up to what is promised.

I have officially given up for now… I called Oticon to ask about New LE Adapter and they said to check with my hearing aid professional… I told them my hearing aid professional said to call Oticon… whatever … I’ll wait to see if audiologist has any luck finding out about the adapter … I can’t afford a new laptop and I still don’t know if LE audio supported laptop will mean that others could also hear the audio …

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Le audio is still new, most specially to hearing aids. I have been wearing aids 20 years and the progress has been at a steady pace but always been behind most other devices. I know how frustrating it is. I retired before I wanted to because of my hearing had got to the point I couldn’t hear on company phones. I still cannot hear on a landline phone.
I am lucky in the since that my aids are provided to me along with extras from the , due to my service related hearing loss. My aids, Oticon INTENT1, are paired to my Samsung S23 phone it is the only phone I can hear calls with. I use to enjoy weekly and some times daily calls with friends and family. I have to know settle for text. I don’t enjoy TV anymore for a number of reasons, mostly the content is terrible. I read or listen by way text to speech or audiobooks by stream directly from my phone or by way of the connect clip from my tablets. I have also found that the EDUMIC is great connected by way of 3.5mm audio cable to my tablets and the EDUMIC is a much better microphone than the connect clip.
I really wish I could still wear aids because they worked so much better with phone handsets.

In reply to @Michael_Phonak

@Michael_Phonak said:

@LewBob no real need for LE Audio with Phonak as Phonak is full Bluetooth capable and hence will anyway work with the Laptop directly.

I will be curious to see if will reduce the delay/latency vs Bluetooth Classic. I just bought Infinio Spheres after years with KS10’s so I know about the flexibility of Phonaks.

In reply to @nedunla

@nedunla said:

I have officially given up for now… I called Oticon to ask about New LE Adapter and they said to check with my hearing aid professional… I told them my hearing aid professional said to call Oticon… whatever … I’ll wait to see if audiologist has any luck finding out about the adapter … I can’t afford a new laptop and I still don’t know if LE audio supported laptop will mean that others could also hear the audio …

I am still not sure we (or at least I) fully understand your use case. What I think you are trying to do is connect to Zoom call using your laptop but there are others also in the same room also using their laptops to connect to the call (and presumably others remotely). Does the room have speakers through which the Zoom call is playing for the rest of the people in the room? If so it does not matter how you connect your hearing aids (Bluetooth LE to laptop, Bluetooth to phone connected to same Zoom call, etc) you will get feedback / echo when you unmute yourself. Your mic in the hearing aids will pick up the room audio and feed it back into the room audio). The only way to stop this would be to disable the mic in your headphones for the Zoom call and use the same audio input as the others.

If, however, all you are trying to do is connect to Zoom call with everyone else remote then this should be pretty easy to achieve. As others have said Teams allows you to connect one or more devices to a call (or swap between devices) and you can disable to audio in one of the connections. I am pretty sure Zoom could do the same. However you say you get echo / feedback when you speak using a phone connected to call (suggesting that you do have the use case described on the top of my post).

Likewise if everyone else in the room is also using headsets / earbuds to connect to the audio, this should also be fairly easy to achieve using your phone or an adapter. In this case your mic should not be causing feedback / echo.

Maybe you can clarify the exact use case.

Thanks

In reply to @nedunla

No - the Legion (& I think most if not all machines) can only have one sound output device set at a time. If it is possible to do that I’d say you’d need software or a special driver to do it.

Thanks. Guess I’ll have to wait and see if the Easy LE adapter that Oticon is developing will do that. But I can’t get much information about it.

In reply to @someozi

Are there any other Bluetooth devices connected to your Lenovo laptop? I found that if I connect a Bluetooth mouse and Phonak hearing aids to the laptop at the same time, the connection between the hearing aids and the laptop will be unstable due to interference from the Bluetooth mouse.

OK thanks - yeh I have a mouse connected. I’ll give it a go. I also found I’m still in warranty & support for about a month so have lodged a ticket with Lenovo. Don’t hold high hopes there but you never know.

I have a Rog Ally X, which is a PC and works well with my Oticon Intents directly. Connects automatically. Has Bluetooth 5.2 and on Windows 11 23H2. PCs that were released this year generally are compatible.

Thanks… my laptop (ideapad 5) is probably considered “ancient” - only 2 years old… it shows Bluetooth 5.2 “ready” , but think it needs upgraded radio (or whatever it’s called) … it does show hearing aids, but “can’t connect” and says laptop doesn’t support LE audio… since it’s out of warranty, Lenovo is absolutely NO help when I contact them… I think even if I get it upgraded for 5.2, I’d still need the drivers which, again, I can’t get an answer from them about if it’s even possible… plus, my main goal is to have others in the room with me able to hear the audio as well without them having to use headphones,etc … so I’m hoping that the Oticon Easy LE Adapter (if it’s even a thing) if/when it comes out, it will function like the TV adapter does… again: when I asked Oticon yesterday if it’s in the works, they said to contact my audiologist - my audiologist said to contact Oticon… let me go find a wall to beat my head against now…

Try getting a TV converter box for your brand of hearing aids and connect to the audio output (headphone output) on your computer. Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5vFxYpVc2Y&t=615s5
I have used another method to have computer audio go to the ears with an ' transmitter", a small box that connects to the computer headphone jack and sends the audio to the box which transmits to a regular small FM radio receiver I carry in my pocket and hear through earbuds or headphones. This does work well to hear the audio better, but you have to have that portable radio and headphones or earbuds.

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