Bee Venom Theropy (BVT) for hearing loss

Very funny:D:D:rolleyes:

@FrastNH said:

Just wondering if anyone tried or know of someone who did try bee stings to treat hearing loss. I have been reading up, watching videos, and educating myself for a week 5 hrs a day now. I am expecting my bees to arrive tomorrow and can’t wait so excited to try it. I am really tired of tinnitus and I don’t want to believe there is no cure for it. Does anyone has a story of success or failure to share?

Bee Venom Therapy - The NESS

February 2002 by Steven Novella, MD It is administered in private homes by unlicensed practitioners. It is not prescribed by a doctor, yet it is used like any other drug, given in regular doses at regular intervals. There is no scientific evidence to...

Sorry, but I think this concept is nonsense; as does the doctor who wrote the linked article.

I think that based on a complete lack of any scientific study this is going to hurt, and is not going to work. You might just as well buy a Tens machine and electrocute your ear.

I’m willing to consider that some homeopathic or diet changes could have an effect because of the chemical composition of the endolymph and perilymph in the inner ear. And if there is a hearing loss associated with the tinnitus, it is often the case that properly prescribed hearing aids can provide relief in many sufferers.

I actually ordered the bees to treat an ankle problem that hurts when I run. But I decided to start with my ears. And I understand a lot of people will be sarcastic about this, but who cares. I am just sharing thinking maybe someone has an experience or heard of something about BVT. No side effects, so why shouldn’t I try it. So, if you didn’t try it how could you know it doesn’t work. Can’t wait for my girls to bite me.

My husband is a beekeeper…we would be very interested in knowing if bee therapy made a difference…it has been used for joint pain…good luck!

I give up.

@DocAudio said:

I have heard of it only in the treatment of MS I believe…

I saw references to that when I Googled this crazy concept. Again, there was no credible scientific evidence to show any improvement for MS patients.

Bee Venom Therapy – Grassroots Medicine

Pat Wagner (or "The Bee Lady," as she likes to be called) treats herself for multiple sclerosis (MS) by allowing bees to sting her. She calls this bee-venom therapy (BVT) and believes it has saved her

“Unfortunately, as we often see with grassroots or folk medicine in general – practice and belief are completely disconnected from scientific research. Apitherapy has evolved into another CAM belief system – one with an almost spiritual belief in the power of the honey bee to “heal”. Evidence is irrelevant.”

@FrastNH said:

I actually ordered the bees to treat an ankle problem that hurts when I run. But I decided to start with my ears. And I understand a lot of people will be sarcastic about this, but who cares. I am just sharing thinking maybe someone has an experience or heard of something about BVT. No side effects, so why shouldn’t I try it. So, if you didn’t try it how could you know it doesn’t work. Can’t wait for my girls to bite me.

Also, I would strongly suggest doing this with someone there/supervision in case you have some kind of allergic reaction. MANY people don’t show an allergy to bee stings until the second time they are stung and I’d hate for you discover that this is the case for you. Anaphylactic Shock is no joke and if you proceed with your “treatment” and it goes bad and no one is there to help you…things could end very poorly (i.e. you might find yourself dead…which would definitely cure your tinnitus). Words of advice…BEE careful…(sorry, couldn’t help myself).

I hope the original poster doesn’t suffer from allergies. I wonder what the risks of Anaphylactic shock are with this…

@ZCT said:

Why not let fire ants crawl on you, maybe their venom is magic? Why not try and get struck by lightening, you never know, surely that electric has to do something right? How about mixing Sprite and Dr Pepper with some vodka and chasing it with cod liver oil? What about a coffee enema?

It reminds me of that idea behind warning labels on everything, like “For external… use” on the Preparation H label, because you know, somewhere, sometime, they got a letter from someone who said “I ate this whole tube of Prep. H and I STILL have hemorrhoids”.

Here is the return letter for the bees:

“Dear Sir, I am returning the bees you sold me. I have let every one of them sting me and I STILL have hearing loss so, obviously, the bees are defective.”

To each their own, I mean if this person has made up their mind to do it then they are going to do it. (and it sure looks like he/she has) I believe the question the person asked was if anyone had a good or bad experience trying this, not to be ridiculed for trying it. It’s kind of appalling how much people tear people down on here for trying anything to fix their hearing, whether it be a bee treatment or a hearing aid brand that you don’t support. I thought the purpose of this forum was for support, not for ridicule or to make someone feel incompetent for trying anything and everything to hear. There have been times when I have said I’d give my left arm if I could hear properly, and I was pretty confident when I said it. We all want to hear better, or help people hear better on this forum, so don’t knock someones idea, because there are always negatives to doing anything. Warnings such as make sure your not allergic, and watch out for anaphylactic shock are great but making fun of someone who is just trying to get their hearing back, that’s just sad.

Wish you luck with your test. Yesterday, I inadvertently became a test subject in the back yard. While trimming bushes happened to disturbed a Yellow Jacket Wasp ground nest. Got stung several times; leg, arm, neck and even my left ear. Other than localized swelling and itching didn’t notice any improvement in my hearing.

Granted these were not honey bees.

Hey Buck lighten up. People on this forum have proven time and time again they they are more then willing to go out of their way to help everyone or almost everyone with their questions or concerns. At the same time when an idea seems out there it’s also okay to comment on that to. It would seem to me that there would be a better way to get bee venom into a person’s system then to order a hive through the mail and then put the hive over your head and have the bees sting the crap out of you. If a person asked if jumping off a building and landing on their head could possibly bring back their hearing should we encourage that too? Maybe we were a little harsh on the OP but to some of us this idea sound so bad that to poke fun might be the best way to discourage it. Buck, you have only been on this forum for a month. I don’t think you are really in any position to pass judgement regarding any of the members of this forum. At least not yet. Give it a chance. you’ll see that most of us are nice people who are willing to share our experiences with other.