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I started my trial with More 1 today. I have been wearing Oticon Opn 1 since Summer of 2016. For the past few weeks I have been on an extended trial with Phonak Paradise while I waited for the More to arrive. Before the Paradise I had a short trial with the current Widex. I didn’t like the sound of the Widex.
I have been pleasantly surprised with the Phonak. The Phonak Audeo Q90 I had before the Opn 1 sounded kind of tinny to me. The Opn 1 sounded richer and more natural than the Q90. The Paradise seems to have remedied that tinny sound problem. I’d say they sounded just a bit better than the Opn 1.
My audi said he programmed the More with settings “similar” to what I had had on the Opn. I guess the fitting Software has changed so that he could not just import my settings from the Opn. My audi said the More had more adjustment bands than the Opn so he was able to give me more boost in the higher frequencies.
On first impression in the audi’s office I thought the More sounded sharper than the Paradise. It seemed to have more treble or high-end than the Paradise or the Opn. Subjectively I thought the More sounded louder than the Opn or the Paradise on the default volume setting on the default program. I did seem to find that I could listen to and understand what my audi was saying with less effort than with the Opn or the Paradise.
I had a very short face-to-face (masked) conversation with a grocery clerk. With the Opn in that situation I would often boost up the volume a couple of clicks to make sure I could hear everything being said. I didn’t feel the need to do that with the More.
I came home and listened to Netflix trying all three . The More seemed to feel a little less “comfortable” than the other two. I had a little of that feeling a first-time HA wearer has where sounds are overwhelming. I felt like if someone were to drop a pan near me it would sound a bit like an explosion. This feeling was not nearly as pronounced as when I actually WAS a first-time HA wearer, but it reminded me of that.
Listening to the same conversation on Netflix repeatedly while changing HAs, I felt like maybe I understood a couple of words with the More that I didn’t understand with the others.
My music program with the feedback control almost off is pretty much unusable due to feedback. I should have tested that program in the audi’s office.
Overall I feel that, surprisingly, I am going to have to take a little time for my brain to get used to the More. I thought it would be a very seamless transition. I do think that, after a couple of programming tweaks and my brain adjusting to them, the More will be a significant improvement over the Opn 1, and better than the Paradise. Hope this helps someone.

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I’m a little surprised to hear that you have feedback issue with the More in the Music program with feedback control almost off. The More is supposed to have the feedback prevention technology carried over from the OPN S that’s supposed to solve that problem. Hopefully your audi can fix that issue for you in your next visit.

You’re in a rather unique position that you have the OPN, the Paradise and the More all 3 in your possession at the same time so you can try all 3 on the spots, so you don’t have to rely much on memory. Nothing can beat that for doing A/B/C comparisons.

I think you’re right that you’re probably going to need some adjustment time with the More, especially if you’ve been getting used to the Paradise for the last few weeks. I can’t wait to hear more impressions from you, especially at very noisy places to see how the More fares in comparison to the OPN and Paradise.

Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for the very detailed rundown. I’m about 18 months in on a set of Opn S1s and looking down the road toward the next set. I would be interested to know if the music/feedback issue resolves as I play in a band and that could be problematic!

@ziploc said:

I came home and listened to Netflix trying all three HAs.

Gee, I’m envious that you were able to test three ’s at home, all at one setting. Most Audi’s will only allow customers to test an aid one at a time. As in test aid, return aid, then test another aid. Sure sounds like when you have your More aids fined tuned, you might have a keeper.

Opn 1 are owned, just two were new.

But to add more salt to the wound I had set of marvels 90 13T, paradises 90 R and paradises 90 13T at the same time, and all of that without any deposit.
Oh yeah, roger select and tv connector as wellat the same time.

Had select and pen and tv connector and one pair also for a while.

It really depends on the fitter. However here in Germany, trust towards customers is really high. But it is really weird to have 19 thousand EUR (usual price here) worth of goods in your hand, without even a signature. But ok, he had scan of my insurance card. I felt anxious having that and carrying that around since it wasn’t mine and I was afraid I’ll lose them on my way home or something :joy:

I even took a picture of 6 aids and send to friends to show how 18 thousand euros look like :joy:

My hubby’s new motorbike was I think 12 thousands after several thousand worth of changes.

I don’t need diamonds or expensive phone to feel rich, I have hearing aids :rofl:

I got my vaccine yesterday and that put me in a situation I have scrupulously tried to avoid for the last year: being inside a room with lots of other people. Everyone was socially distanced and masked. I thought this would be a good test for the Mores I have been wearing for the last few days.
This was a large room with acoustic ceilings. It was not at all echoey. So it was a much less challenging listening environment than our nightmare situation of a loud, echoey bar/restaurant. People were talking at conversational volumes. There were some slightly louder voices at one end of the room as people were being summoned.
Usually in a situation like this (multiple conversations going on, unfamiliar people with unfamiliar voices wearing masks) I would bump up the volume on my Oticon Opn a couple of notches and this would help with speech comprehension. Yesterday I resisted the urge to increase the volume on the Mores. I kept them at the default volume during the whole process. I had a little trouble but I was able to understand everything that multiple people said to me. I think if I had bumped up the volume my speech comprehension would have been even better.
After receiving the vaccine they sat me in a chair facing a wall about six feet away for fifteen minutes of observation. The people running the clinic were all behind me. Hearing people talking behind me has always been a problem. For the most part I could hear the conversations and the clinic people calling out the names of patients pretty well.
All in all I thought the Mores did a better job than the Opn1 would have done in that situation. So far the Mores have seemed like a noticeable improvement over the Opn1, but more like an incremental improvement than a revolutionary improvement. At this point I would say if you have Opn or Opn S and you’re pretty satisfied with them you should not rush out and buy the Mores unless you have some compelling reason (like insurance considerations) to do so. This opinion may be subject to change as I wear the HAs for a longer time and maybe get some programming adjustments.

Thanks for the update in a more challenging environment. The marketing for the More says it has a 15% increase in speech understanding and 30% more sounds. Do you think your experience so far reflects this? 15% better speech understanding is fairly incremental alright. But 30% more sounds seems like a lot more than just incremental. I feel like I already hear a lot around me with the OPN 1 already, so I can’t imagine how the More can improve with almost a third more sounds… That seems to imply that you’re still missing out on a lot of sounds with the OPN/S, which is quite hard to believe.

Have you had a chance to test out music listening? Doesn’t have to be live music, but at least not with streaming music, but through a speaker-based system?

One of the challenges I have with my OPN 1 is in a driving car at freeway speed, and listening to a conversation with a soft spoken person like my daughter. I wonder if the More would be able to improve on this by doing a better balance between speech and the loud road noise at freeway speed.

I’ve had Opn 1s for about 3 years and am on Trial day 7 of Oticon Mores. My first impression was that the Mores sound a bit “brighter” than the Opns. But once I got used to that I’m not really experiencing a discernible improvement in speech comprehension. Of course my trial is hampered by Covid as my speech sources are mostly limited to my wife, the TV (via the streaming box) and the car radio. In all three cases I’ve experienced no noticeable improvement. I still ask my wife to repeat herself regularly. The TV sounds reasonably good streamed (as it did with the Opn 1s). And the car radio is still a problem. I guess everyone’s mileage will vary.

Thanks for sharing, Mike. Your first impression is consistent with many others who tried out the More compared to their OPN or OPN S. The only missing test, like you mentioned, is trying it out in very noisy places like restaurants or a busy street, due to covid.

From what I understand, the improvement on the More is the ability to balance many different sounds in very busy situations. Without being able to test it out in those complex environments, it’d be hard to detect a discernible difference between the More and the OPN/S.

But it’s too bad that your car radio experience is not any better, and your speech understanding from your wife’s voice neither. It’d be interesting to see your just to get an idea of the level of your hearing loss. Thanks.

Interesting the comparison with these hearing aids because I am interested in testing them.
In the Widex case, I always liked the timbre, very rich in nuances, as for Phonak, there was always a tendency to more “metallic” sounds, which ends up being very irritating. Unfortunately, Oticonn never had the opportunity to test.
Another situation is that audiologists in Brazil are very poorly trained, I have already had a case where it simply confused the high and low terms … Difficult to find anyone who makes a satisfactory adjustment.

** :+1:** This info might be helpful to anyone who is a musician ♫ and has the Oticon More 1 hearing aids.
My Audiologist made these adjustments today and the problem I was having with sustained notes played on a piano oscillating or fluttering seems to have been eliminated.
These are the settings that worked for me in the event you want to share this with your Audi too: :ok_hand:

"Increase by 3 steps, moved feedback manager to “low,” and adjusted compression ratios as close as possible to 1.0."

We hope this helps someone else as much as it helped my music ♫ listening experience. :hear_with_hearing_aid:

Does anyone know how to do this to a Phonak device? I have the KS-9’s and the audiologist tried to correct this effect by turning off Sound Recover on Prog 2. Doesn’t work.

Where you select the fitting formula, you can change the compression to Linear which will make the compression 1.0 across the board.

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I’m on my third day testing the More. I am a Widex user. So far I’ve found the sounds are much better although I’m comparing to a Widex that is pretty good Car noises are a challenge so want to test More there. I’ve noticed that sounds words & music coming from speakers is very good.

I’ve had the more1 for about 3 weeks now and feel like I’ve completely adjusted. Things like car noise and loud background noise have gone away, I’ve learned to just tune them out. I can hear great in loud restaurants and if it gets hard, the speech in noise makes a massive difference. I even had a loud Harley rumbling next to me while having a conversation amd I could hear better than my normal hearing friends.

I get flutter with higher pitched noises amd terrible feedback with music or things like the sink running. It sounds like swirling high pitched noises. I also think the music program sounds like hot garbage.

Coming from older widex, the more has been amazing. I tried the paradise p90 for a couple weeks before and while it was good, I found it to be mechanical sounding with loud noises and it didn’t perform nearly as well in noisy places. That said, I thought the paradise was great in noise until I tried the mores. I’m sure they work great for some people, I just preferred the oticons in that case.

Overall, I feel pretty close to having somewhat normal hearing back. They need some tweaks to correct a few things, but I’ve found them to be a massive upgrade from my 6 year old beyond’s.

@nope said:

I get flutter with higher pitched noises amd terrible feedback with music or things like the sink running. It sounds like swirling high pitched noises. I also think the music program sounds like hot garbage.

Read my post on Oticon More fluttering.
The MYMusic program is a total fail, check the thread we have going on Oticon portable charger and mymusic program.

You need your audi to make adjustments in the fitting software, More Sound Intelligence, and Automatics.That should eliminate the flutter for you.

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