I have Resound 2.0 and the Noahlink, and have tuned my Jabra Pro-20’s to the point that they seem to work much better than originally set up. I have not changed any of the gain settings.
As a learning exercise I have been reading about the In-Situ fitting. I understand it wipes out the REM gain settings and replaces them with the new In-Situ curves.
My question is, are the REM gain settings stored in the original profile (backup protected xlm file), and will restoring to the original file restore the REM settigns? I can’t seem to find this answer anywhere.
My question is, are the REM gain settings stored in the original profile (backup protected xlm file), and will restoring to the original file restore the REM settigns?
Yes everything will be the same as when you saved that client/file.
Thanks for the reply, I was really hesistant to proceed without some reassurance. As you probably have read, I’ve made just about every mistake a person can make, and always could just start over by returning to the original profile. I’ve learned what most of the settings do, and just want to try the In-Situ because some folks say it works better. I just wasn’t sure on this particular scenario.
One other avenue I haven’t tried was the Target Rule setting. I’m on the , which seems to be the preferred setting as far as I can read. Wondering what the other settings could provide?
One other avenue I haven’t tried was the Target Rule setting. I’m on the NAL-NL2, which seems to be the preferred setting as far as I can read. Wondering what the other settings could provide?
Yeah so in preferences you can change the default proprietary formula, as to what they could provide for your listening situation is something that you’ll need to experiment with, so I’m guessing you’ve already tried the proprietary SmartFit and you say NAL 2, so there’s the a more linear gain and can’t remember the others in SmartFit, but I remember I made clients up in each and decided on NAL in the end.
You can also do in situ testing so that the software displays your current loss in each ear, but not let the software actually change any of your gain settings. This is interesting and helps to let you know how your hearing is working without changing anything until you are ready.
Also remember that whatever you change, you can always exit without saving and you are back where you were before you started the last session.
I highly advise that you keep notes (annotated with date and time) of your sessions. You can do that in the software, but there is always the small notebook and hand writing option! You might think you will remember and don’t need to take notes, but believe me weeks or months later, your memory of what you did and when will have dimmed considerably!
About the only thing I haven’t tried is the In-Situ and enabling the tinnitus program inside the hearing aids. I have to get some power domes to test the In-Situ, but I’ve read another thread where someone suggested running both the power domes and the open domes to do a comparison. I’ll try that when I get the power domes.
Everything I try comes back to the settings. As weird as they look, they absolutely provide the best hearing to me. I tried every Target Rule, and always reverted back to the original NAL2. One point I heard was the recommended Target Rule of + (Resound Default?) was too mild, mainly to keep people from rejecting their hearing aids. I can confirm that absolutely. I’ve made some minor tweaks in the Environmental Optimizer II to reduce the loudness of voices in mid and high noise areas, and also I took the Advance Features Noise Tracker II from Per Environment to Moderate to prevent the hunting or surging effect around fans. I also lowered my Wind Guard down 1 notch, it wasn’t bothering me.
So when I get complete all my mad scientist experiments, I’ll try to post a long, boring post about what I found. Not for the experienced guys, but for the newbs like me. Still learning!
Ok, I finally jumped and did some In-Situ testing. Bought some power domes and tried both those and the open domes. They were different, but not significantly. Note to other newbies like me- Don’t save any changes until you creat 2 profiles AND export the original settings to somewhere safe like a thumb drive. If you don’t hit save it won’t save your mistakes.
Now, on to playtime. Here are the open dome curves.
With the target rule at the high tones were harsh and seemed excessively loud.
Here are the power dome curves. This is the recommended dome to do this test in.
With the target rules set to NAL-NL2 these were slightly milder sounding, but the high tones still seemed over-represented.
Finally, here are the original settings I’ve grown used to. Overall these still seem to sound more real world as I remember it, even though the high tones slope off pretty drastically from the suggested curves. Must be that REM magic!
So, as all the expeirenced and knowledgeable folks on here have said, as long as you have that critical original clean backup of your original fitting, I have found no way to make such a mess of it that I can’t get back to square one.
I believe that in a pinch you could come up with some pretty useable settings by going this route, but I’d also say the $65 Costco Membershi and free REM fitting is well worth the money.
Surrey, UK
