Phonak Naida Lumity 30 UP - My own voice and people close to me disappears in noisy environments

No you need to worry about this, all you need to do is copy your existing settings into target and save them there, yes the clinic will notice a time stamp difference, but that’s all it you revert back to those original settings, seriously tho once you start on your DIY projects I’m sure you’ll not be going back, only reason maybe to get new molds made etc

When you first open Target, create a “new client”, something like “L30 UP Original” as the name. Restart the aids and turn off any Bluetooth connections. When you first connect it will ask you if you want to take the settings from Target or the Hearing aids. Choose hearing aids. This will download everything the Audiologist has done. At this point I would “save and disconnect”. You only ever use this client if you mess up in DIY, it’s your backup.
*Note: In global tuning, make a note of which fitting formula your Audiologist used.

Now, create a new Client as your DIY client. In this you can enter your last Audiogram, if you have it. Connect the aids, this time choosing the Target option (rather than hearing aids). Once connected, I’d run the feedback/real ear test. It’s not a proper “Real Ear” test, but it does compare how your hearing aid speakers are working with your Audiogram. It also sets a feedback threshold line. I find this threshold overzealous, so I allow some overprogramming, so gains can exceed this line. Next, I’d do an Audiogram Direct (in situ) hearing test. The actual test is better done by another person. Once done, go to Global tuning. The fitting formula can be changed here. I don’t know which formula Target would choose for you here, as your loss is different. You can experiment here. By now your hearing aids are programmed. Go into fine tuning. Here, you can set up additional programmes. In your case, as an experiment, I’d add Music as an additional programme, and set it as startup. I’d also add Speech in noise. Autosense would then only be available by manually selecting it. Once done, save and exit.
*Note: Program Options, makes all the difference, on the functionality of Phonak HAs, and you can personalise them for your needs. You can also customise each program, for its levels of noise reduction. For example, I’ve found “Calm Situation” has too much noise reduction, as does “Speech in noise”. I found Speech in noise does reduce the volume of background noise, but it also reduces the volume of the person you’re trying to hear. All this can be amended to your liking.

Live with your new settings for a day or two, making notes on the performance of Music, Speech in Noise & Autosense. Play around in the app, to see if you can get better results by using some of the sliders, or the graphic, making notes on what works.

This is what I do anyway. In your case, I’d firstly ask your Audiologist to add Music as an additional programme. You can scroll through the added programmes with long presses.

Thank you so much. I was looking on eBay and they’re very expensive. I need to save up money for months to get the Noahlinks.

Thank you very much for your explanation. I don’t fully understand. I need to study the topic more, but it will be useful in the future.

I have the “additional program” named “Music” and maybe it has everything disabled (Note: But according to the myphonak app, the base program for this is “Calm Situation”)

This “Music” program is the basic and essential one. I know that the Naida Lumity L90 and L70 UP versions have another “Music” program; I don’t know the difference with the one I currently have.
It was added by my doctor.

I don’t know if this affects my problems, but the “Fitting Formula” chosen by my doctor is: DSL v5a Adult

Thank you so much for your screenshots. You’ve practically disabled everything in your streaming programs.
And in the “Audibility Fine Tuning” tab, have you changed anything?
Is Soundrecover2 enabled on your streaming programs?

Hi, I’ve disabled SoundRecover2 in all programmes. I’ve enough hearing left to not need it. I’ve never touched Audibility Fine Tuning.

Yes, my doctor temporarily disabled SoundRecover2, and I noticed a big difference. The voices were softer and less clear without it enabled. So they left it on.

I find my hearing instrument specialist very helpful. I provided my notes to him so he can make changes to my settings in Phonak Target.

@Phantomj, you can make your hearing aids start with the Music program after turning them on, if you want.

Thanks, but what are the effects with this configuration?
I mean what positive changes there are when configured with those options.