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Which hearing aid would you choose for my hearing loss? Oticon Reveal 1 vs Oticon Xceed SP1 vs Phonak Naída Lumity L90-SP

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  1. Hi everyone,

    I would really appreciate some advice from people with severe-to-profound hearing loss, especially anyone who has experience with these hearing aids.

    My is:

    Left ear: 60 / 75 / 80 / 95 / 105 / 110 / 95

    Right ear: 50 / 60 / 75 / 95 / 105 / 105 / 95 dB

    (Frequencies: 125, 250, 500, 1000, 2000, 4000, 6000 Hz)

    I currently use an Oticon Xceed SP1, and I am happy with it. I still have some power reserve, so I don't necessarily need a stronger UP device.

    I am now considering two options:

    • Oticon Reveal 1 – the new 2026 receiver-in-the-ear () model with Dual , using the 105 receiver
    • Phonak Naída Lumity L90-SP – a powerful SP

    My main question is:

    With my level of hearing loss, would the Oticon Reveal 1 with the 105 receiver provide enough power and amplification for me, or would it be better to stay with a powerful SP BTE such as the Oticon Xceed SP1 or Phonak Naída Lumity L90-SP?

    I am particularly interested in speech understanding, speech clarity, sound quality, available power/gain, and real-world experience.

    If you were in my position, which one would you choose and why?

    Thank you very much for your advice!

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Hi there, ok so you'll be pushing that receiver at times so I'd look at the Phonak Lumity UP Nidia much better all-round, I still can't understand why no UP from Sonova with infinio or EON.

Also you could of course use the UP receiver with the Audeo infinio or similar if your looking for the small form factor, but Nidia still have much better all-round.

Quite decent, regarding your loss. It's a shame that Phonak didn't launched Naida Sphere.

There is also Resound Enzo IA with very decent ~4 day battery life on one charge.

In reply to @SCsaba

Sometimes those fitting diagrams are optimistic.

I ran a simulation using both DSLv5 and with a 1mm vent, and for both formulas, the results are close to the max power curve. This means that if you need to make adjustments or boost the volume in certain situations, the Reveals won’t be able to accommodate that (or allow adjustments at high frequencies).

The VAC+ and NAL-NL3 prescribed lower gains but still close to the max power curve.

I also ran the simulations with Oticon's Verit but I ran into the same power limitations.

This is aligned with what @tenkan said (I just added some pictures).

In reply to @SCsaba

@SCsaba said:

I am particularly interested in speech understanding, speech clarity, sound quality, available power/gain, and real-world experience.

From my experience (YMMV), it's good to have no vent, especially in earmolds.

It's because with your loss, you should have UP receiver as deep as possible so that you get additional "free" gain due to Boyle's law (because of less volume of ear canals in cm³ between earmolds and eardrums).

UP receiver takes much space and even 0.5mm vent will take away its space, making deep fitting more difficult.

No vent means also maximising effectiveness of any directional and denoising technology.

@SCsaba, could you upload the gain curves from Target software with Naidas?

Output graph will be also welcome due to curves.

In reply to @OcramSagev

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it. I’ll take a little time to attach the image Oticon xceed sp 1 with the exact hearing aid fitting settings. Hopefully, this way we’ll have a clearer picture and know exactly where we stand. Oticon Xceed SP1

Naida is very good because of SoundRecover2 feature if you have dead regions in high frequency parts of cochleas.

@SCsaba, If you're not in a hurry, you can wait until autumn. Perhaps on the occasion of the announcement of a new sound processor, a new Naida will be announced.

In reply to @Bimodal_user

I’m not in a rush. I won the grant and I want to make the most of it, so I’m taking my time to research the options and decide which one would be best for me. Hopefully, the process will take until the end of the year. 😄

In reply to @Hearing_Potential

Hi, thank you for your reply. I don’t really want to switch to another brand. I’m already used to Oticon, and I had Phonak hearing aids when I was a child, which worked well for me. So I’d prefer to stick with these brands rather than try a different one or get used to a completely different sound.

In general if you are doing well with your current Xceed devices then I would not necessarily recommend new devices, particularly if you are not in a rush. Ideally, Oticon would have already updated their Xceed line, but this is not the case, and unfortunately nothing seems to be on the horizon. I think you are right on with the value of being acclimated to Oticon processing, and I would stick with Oticon if possible.

The situation is that I won a grant, and I have to use the voucher to purchase the hearing aids either at the end of this year or at the beginning of next year. If I don’t use it within that period, I’ll lose the grant. That’s why I’m doing a lot of research now — I really want to make sure I get the best possible hearing aids for my needs.

If you have already Xceed now, you can make a test and request your audi about silicone earmold for with no vent, from very deep impression, reaching at least 5mm past 2nd bend of ear canals. The goal is making the tip of earmold as deep as possible.

Personally I have ONLY ONE impression in my life, when, during curation of silicone, I was temporarily totally deaf (basically there were 2 impressions: one with the mouth closed, and the other with the mouth open at 3 cm from the moment the silicone was injected until it was pulled out).

Previous impressions were never deep enough (accurate?) for me to feel deaf. Keep in mind that I have near normal heraing in lowest frequencies.

I don't have Oticon , I have Phonak Audéo Infinio Sphere 90 Ultra, currently temporarily with P receiver in power domes with #0 wire length, but eventually I plan to have UP receiver in cShell (kind of canal earmold) with no vent.

Hi everyone! It’s time for my trial period. I’m currently trying the Phonak Audéo Infinio Sphere i90 UP, and I’ll have it for two weeks. After that, I’ll be trying the Phonak Naída Lumity L90-SP. I don’t have much time to write at the moment, but I’ll share my experiences later!

Szia! 😊

Jelenleg a Phonak Audéo Infinio Sphere i90-et tesztelem.UP és a Phonak Naída Lumity L90-SP között , és azt kell mondanom, hogy jobban szeretem az Audéo Infinio Sphere i90 UP hangzását.

A Sphere segítségével minden irányból, szinte 360 ​​fokban érzékelem a hangokat. Meg tudom állapítani, hogy a hang mögülem, előlem, vagy bármelyik oldalról jön-e. A Naída Lumity L90-SP-vel nem volt ugyanilyen érzésem azonosítani a hátam mögül érkező hangokat. Úgy vélem, a Sphere négymikrofonos rendszere hozzájárul ehhez a térbelibb és természetesebb hallásélményhez.

Összességében a hangminőség nagyon jó. A hangzás nyitottnak, tisztának és természetesnek érződik. Mielőtt kipróbáltam ezeket az eszközöket, az Oticon Xceed SP1-et használtam, amelynek valamivel visszafogottabb hangzása volt a Sphere-hez képest.

A Gömb alakú mód is nagyon jól működik. Eddigi tapasztalataim szerint bizonyos helyzetekben lényegesen jobban teljesít, mint a Roger On 3, ezért mostanában nem használtam a Roger On 3-at.

Az akkumulátor élettartama is lenyűgözött. Egyetlen töltéssel a hallókészülékek körülbelül két és fél napig bírják a jelenlegi használati szokásaim mellett. Naponta körülbelül az akkumulátor 40%-át használom el, beleértve a körülbelül négy óra zenelejátszást és a két óra Spheric módot.

Már egy hete tesztelem a Sphere-t, és eddig nagyon lenyűgözött a hangminősége, a térérzékelése és az akkumulátor teljesítménye. További előny, hogy a hallókészülékek képesek csatlakozni a Garmin órámhoz, laptopomhoz és tévémhez, így nem kell további tartozékokat vásárolnom. A megfelelő illesztéssel és konfigurációval minden jól működik.

Talán a Phonak EON Sphere 90 még jobb lenne, de sajnos a jelenlegi hazai hallókészülék-program még nem támogatja.


 

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