DIY - How to get started with self-programming

Dusty,

Thanks for your very informative post.

You list the Philips Hearlink 9010’s from COSTCO as being “locked”.

I have been able to download the Philips Hearsuite programming software, and it runs on my PC. I can’t actually try to connect them to my Philips hearing aids at this time, since I don’t have any NoaLink device. If I did get the NoaLink hardware, do you know for sure that I would be unable to program my Philips HearLinks? I.e., are they really locked?

MDB Central California

I’ll start by saying I don’t know, but my take on the list is that they are not locked. Only the Resound ones show as locked, although I can see how you could take it the way you did. If you do decide to try, make sure you get the right device. NoahLink and NoahLink Wireless are different devices.

Jack_F

I guess I did miss-read the list. Thanks for pointing out that NoahLink and NoahLink Wireless are different - I assume I would need a NoahLink Wireless device.

MDB Central California

NoahLink Wireless would be my best guess for the Phillips aids, but in programming, it’s best to leave nothing to chance. Perhaps somebody who’s actually programmed the Phillips aids can join in, but I’d tried to find the hearing aid that is most similar to your Phillips hearing aid in the software and look what hardware they say is needed.

esheridan1

So, now that I have bought my Bernafon Nano Hearing aids, downloaded the Bernafon Oasis software, it would appear that I now need to also purchase a Hi-Pro together with a Programming cable #2. That little lot is going to set me back about £300!! if I’m lucky Would that be about right or have I completely misunderstood?

So is the alternative being to find an audiologist willing to program them for me?
Any recommendations / referrals please?

You £300 price is within the ballpark. Though I don’t know prices across the pond.

Programming cable #2?? I don’t think so. Those may be the short cables required for an old programming device named NOAHlink (not to be confused with Noahlink Wireless). You would want standard CS44 cables. I have not researched your model hearing aid to see what cables/strips are required for connection. When you say Nano , perhaps you mean Bernafon Juna Nano RITE?

Audi’s like it when you walk in the door with £6000 and no hearing aids. They will be so nice to you. When you walk in the door with your own hearing aids, it’s like walking into a restaurant with your own steak and asking what’s the cost to cook it. Perhaps they will just charge you an extra modest fee?? It’s hard to say??

There are mail-in online programming services. Though, depending on your hearing loss, you may not be pleased with the results.

Raudrive

Texas Hill Country

In reply to @esheridan1

If your hearing aid software is correct for your aids the software should tell you what programming device and cables you need to program them. They might also be programmed wirelessly, check the software.

This is why it’s important to do your research before buying anything. Once you understand what is needed you can figure costs and where to buy what’s needed.
Start with the hearing aids of choice software. Then educate yourself.

tenkanProvider

In reply to @esheridan1

@esheridan1 said:

I now need to also purchase a Hi-Pro together with a Programming cable #2

Well the good thing is, if you do go ahead and get a HiPro and cables you’ll never need to worry about wasting time on who’s going to provide programming, the Bernafon use exactly the same cables as Oticon (and sonic for that matter) cable part numbers
HI-PRO #2 (CS44)
Left: [384-20-033-00]
Right: [384-20-032-00]
So a good choice there. £300 is very high, you don’t need to pay that much, find a minipro or USB HiPro model on eBay or aliexpress for less.
If your Bernafon Nano model is wireless you can program them wirelessly with the FittingLink 3.0 .

Be careful when ordering #2 cables (any #2 cables). Here’s why.

If you have the luxury of ordering from Bernafon or even the luxury or ordering by specific part number then Yes, you can order (Bernafon HI-PRO #2, Left: 384-20-033-00, Right: 384-20-032-00). But most ppl will not be ordering from Bernafon.

On EBay you seldom see hearing aid programming cables listed by part number, or by the hearing aid manufacturer’s pet name. If you order #2 cables from EBay you may end up with the wrong cable that will not work with the Hi Pro! There are some short/50cm NOAHlink #2 cables floating around because the NOAHlink programming device (not to be confused with Noahlink Wireless) is becoming obsolete. The short/50cm NOAHlink #2 cables will not work with the Hi Pro hearing aid programming device.

So look for CS44 cables when ordering from sites such as EBay because it’s unlikely you will find Bernafon HI-PRO #2, or Left: 384-20-033-00, or Right: 384-20-032-00.

tenkanProvider

@pvc said:

The short/50cm NOAHlink #2 cables will not work with the Hi Pro hearing aid programming device.

Are you sure, are they just thinner and a bit shorter, same CS44 pin connections.

Here’s a listing on eBay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/17416354508712

No, they are not the same CS44 pin connections! Zoom in on the small connector at the end of the cable and count the number of pins.

3 pins for No#2
4 pins for CS44

Here’s a zoomed-in image of the same cable;

tenkanProvider

Ok I see that now, good detective work!

ecis.joe.swordman

Jan 27, 2021

In reply to @pvc

This information is incorrect for the Noahlink #2 cable on eBay. The picture in the listing is a CS43, not a CS44 cable.

There are two noahlink cables #1 is a 5 pin and #2 is a 4 pin same as HiPro Style 4. Here is the link to the Sonion hearing programmer cable PDF:

The pinouts and connectors are the same for both cables.

The problem is with the eBay listing, not the Bernafon information.

mcquade181

Oct 11, 2022

Hi, I have some Bernafon Caristra 3 Nano hearing aids, and have now inherited another pair of them from my deceased mother.
I would like to reprogram my mothers old pair to match mine.
Could someone perhaps give me a link to the Bernafon Oasis software?
I have a Noahlink Wireless but suspect that this won’t work with these aids as they aren’t bluetooth capable, so does anyone know what hardware I need?

z10user2

Oct 12, 2022

The above user disappeared for a while. Other helpful users picked up the pieces. Now he wants to slam and insult those that had continued to try to help.
@rasmus_braun : Please remove the above continuing insults towards those that had picked up the torch to carry on in his absence before this user came back.