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What potentially adds to iPhones is that streaming music to hearing aids would work properly, rather than the absurdly low bit rate that is used currently. That may not matter to the music you listen to, but it sure is necessary for piano music.

In reply to @Spindel

The new ReSound Multi-Mic+ should work as well but it has only an RCA mini jack not the fiber connector of the TV Streamer+. But it should work well using a PC to stream over . As I understand it , it should work with other capable hearing aids as well.

What @david.hendon said is absolutely why I’m chasing this.
Mfi is great and works well. The quality is terrible. If I could get a dongle that I could just plug in as per requirements at the time that would be great.

I’ve had response from creative and they have basically said it doesn’t support hearing aids. I have informed them that in order to display the branding they should be device agnostic. They have tried to shut me down saying “we don’t test hearing but it’s not only hearing suds that have auracast”. Sounds like gatekeeping to me.

As a Resound user I have also contacted them but other than acknowledgment I haven’t heard since. Appreciate the Beta they had at theatre but will push them to allow beta versions tested by the community.

I’m an ex software tester and Resound and others could benefit from our input right!?

I also appreciate my loss is fairly negligible compared to a lot of you guys and from a resound point of view as it’s my first experience. I think pushing the companies on this could benefit everyone though.

In reply to @Spindel

I disagree I have the INTENT1 aids that works great with my Samsung S23 phone using le audio. The sound isn’t near as good if i didable le audio on my phone. I actually walked away from iPhone to go to the Samsung S23 because i was having so many issues with iPhone connectivity to my aids. Yes iPhone and mfi has the hearing control panel but it isn’t something i need or used. I don’t even use the companion app on my Samsung S23.
You see I don’t use or have to deal with the complications of multiple programs. The default general program is all i use.

In reply to @Spindel

@Spindel said:

MFI hearing aids works really well,

Up to this point, we need accessories made by the manufacturer of our - The Multi-mic works only with ReSound brands. As I understand the standard, we won’t be tied to our HA manufacturer’s stuff. We’ll be able to use an Auracast-enabled Multi-mic from ReSound with, say, Starkey or Signia or Demant HAs that adhere to the Auracast standard. We won’t need a TV streamer with Auracast-enabled TVs and HAs. That should save us some cash.

If Apple doesn’t join the Auracast world, our choices will probably be more limited than if it does, if Auracast takes off, as it looks like it will.

In reply to @philbob57

@philbob57 said:

The Multi-mic works only with ReSound brands.

The plus model can do . So it should work with other devices that can receive an Auracast broadcast.

However, you will need a device (Samsung S23 or S24) to assist connecting to the broadcast if you are not using a Resound compatible hearing aid with Resound app.

In reply to @user990

This might be but seems like a stretch. Best not to use logic to predict what devices should or should not do. Manufacturers seem to have a hard enough time getting devices to do what they claim they’ll do let alone what we think they might do.

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Well if the device is built to the standard, then it’s reasonable to believe it will work with other devices built to the same standard.

The only things mucking it up is the devices hardware and the fact that Bluetooth uses a frequency that is overcrowded with other devices.

That’s what we’ve hoped for but does not seem to be the way it’s playing out. Hopefully you end up being right.

In reply to @user990

@user990 said:

Well if the device is built to the standard, then it’s reasonable to believe it will work with other devices built to the same standard.

That’s the hope, and it looks like may have the staying power necessary for manufacturers to make it work, but … IIRC, it took years for interoperability to become much of a given. Standards can be ambiguous or vague, and if different vendors interpret one of those standards in different ways, it’ll be difficult for those vendors’ products to connect and operate well.

I wonder what about differences between and AirStream technology, which is in Phonak TV Connector or PartnerMic.

Response from Resound:

The technology is new and evolving. We are continually in the process of testing our devices with this new technology. Currently, our Nexia hearing devices are BTLEA and Auracast enabled and are compatible with our TV-Streamer+ and MultiMic+. The GNHearing.com2 site has a list of compatible devices and currently the Samsung S23 model is listed as the only BTLEA-Auracast compatible device.

I did attempt to continue the conversation however I did not receive any further response.

Not sure this is the best place to post this, but I was browsing and found 1) There’s a new Bluetooth version, Bluetooth 6. It looks like it should be available in Quallcom’s latest Snapdragon version, the Snapdragon 8 Elite. Not sure what advantages it might bring to hearing aids but one place mentioned possible increased efficiency (battery life) and I thought I saw something about potential for better sound quality.
Also on Bluetooth.com10 if you click on and then Product one can search for a product. As of now, the only (Big 5) hearing aids listed as Auracast compatible are Resound and Starkey.

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