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I have just completed a one-year subscription with Phonak Lyrics. My experience was generally pretty positive. However, I found that just a few days after each replacement/installation I had problems which I suspect were caused by the Lyrics moving slightly in my ears during sleep. Inevitably I would land up removing them and reinserting myself. But this became quite irritating, and I found the sound was thus often sub optimal with this movement. I suspect another possible cause was the sizing - possibly too small.
In any event, rather than just opting for another year’s subscription, I have been researching alternatives.

I want the smallest (invisible) solution with good sound (including in busy/noisy places like restaurants). I don’t care about Bluetooth and other app related features.

At this stage I am considering a 30 day trial of the Phonak Virto P-10 units. My audiologist assures me these are the smallest (even smaller than the Titanium units) - and that their custom molding is better than the Titanium ones.

Does anyone have any advice to offer me in relation to the Virto P-10’s and even in comparison to the Lyrics sound quality?

I would REALLY appreciate any input/options/advice or just experience of others on this please.

Hi,

I am also using Lyrics for 10 years now (I was 40 years old then) and start having the same problems: the sound is not as accurate as before and noisy environnement are becoming difficult to handle with the Lyrics. I suspect that the change is due to a change of my audition, which is a bit lower than 10 years ago. I am also planning to try the Phonak Virto or the Titanium version. Cleary, my priority is to have something very small and as invisible as the Lyrics. Have you made the move? What is your experience with Phonak Virto after Lyrics?

Thank you for your opinion.

Mat

Hello Mat,

It’s nice to hear from someone who has similar requirements and challenges as mine.

Yes - I in fact made the move to custom molded Phonak Virto i90 aids.

Although I enjoyed the “invisible” aspect of the Lyrics I experienced 4 types of problems:

  1. I found the sound very “tinny” - absolutely no bass. Given my love of music this was an issue for me.

  2. I struggled with the sizing. One size was too tight and was quite painful, yet a size down may have been too loose because I sometimes found in the morning that they seem to have shifted in my ear leading to a change in sound.

  3. Not being able to swim was quite an issue for me.

  4. But the killer finally was the fact that I was overseas away from my audiologist for months at a time meaning that I needed to insert new ones myself. I became quite used to doing this - and I quite often removed them and re-inserted if they became uncomfortable or the sound changed. But the reality is I could not do this as well as the audiologist with their special tool

So finally I started researching alternatives and I came up with the Virto i90 which are very discrete (though not as invisible as the Lyrics).

My audiologist also felt this would be a good alternative, so I had the custom molding done (my audiologist talked me out of the titanium shells).

I have now had them for just over a year. Overall I am very happy with them. The sound is very natural (I actually have some bass to enjoy). They are very comfortable - and I can easily remove them to shower and swim. Sound in a busy environment like a restaurant is still not perfect !

I did have an issue where the one was louder than the other - which they could not rectify with software adjustments. So it was sent in for repair under warranty. They replaced the microphone. During the time it was away I asked to use a pair of Lyrics (which I thought I would love). I removed them myself on the 2nd day - as all the issues I mentioned above resurfaced and I did not enjoy the “sound”.

So overall I am pleased I made the switch. My wife insists they are invisible in my ear - which is a requirement for me.

I do wish I could control them myself - and would love to have a bluetooth connection and of course changing batteries every 5 days or so is a pain, but as you know, you can’t have everything in these incredibly small devices.

I hope this helps with your decision.

I would love to hear from you when you decide what to do.

Best Regards

Terence

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