Perhaps a few factors might help when someone who is reading my input, is that I’m a 79 year old gentleman who is somewhat computer savy. (My wife is a senior program designer at one of our local hospitals) I’ve been using a Samsung Galaxy S20 Plus cell phone for the past few years. All that said, I still prefer to keep my usage as simple as possible. Being that I have been wearing my Jabras less than 2 weeks, I”m still in the learning curve process. People new to the world of HA’s should know that it is not a simple process as seen here with all the included comments.
I think I’m fairly competent with tech, so might try the diy route at some point if it seems to be the way to go. For now I’ll continue to get more familiar and comfortable with the current setup I think.
I would be very interested in hearing your thoughts between the two ha’s while using your phone. As I understand it, the 9050 is such that you do not need the phone in hand and as the Jabra needs to be very close to the phone to converse with the caller.
FYI. Was playing pickleball the other day, with my phone about 50 feet away from where I was. Received a phone call with my 9050s, hit the button, and had a short conversation via the only. It surprised me quite a bit. Have also misplaced my phone in my home and received a phone call via the HAs, and while looking for my phone, had no issues with the HA conversation.
Wore the 9050’s for a week and I like the Jabra 20’s better. I’m going in Monday to demo the Jabra 30’s based on people saying they do better with hearing in noise, my biggest challenge. Went to a noisy restaurant with some friends wearing the 9050’s. Tried a few adjustments in the app and they just didn’t do as well as the Jabra 20’s. I’m hoping the 30’s do better, plus they’ll accept my custom dome for my right ear.
I was going to demo the new Sennheiser brand but they don’t have demo’s available. Wonder how they do in a restaurant. I put this pro/con together for my Audi, figured I’d share here.
There are several options the fitter can make for hearing in noise. For intelligent noise tracker, where the chip is used, I recommend choosing the maximum noise reduction rather than the default.
The aids can have up to four programs installed by the fitter. I opted to not have the music program but to have two different hear in noise programs with different settings, so I could see what works best for me.
If you want to adjust the direction of the microphones in noise, it can be done, but I believe the DNN chip is no longer active.
there are a lot of choices the fitter can make. I recommend having more than one hearing in noise program installed so you can compare options.
I have been wearing the Jabra Enhanced Pro 30s for a few weeks and I find the overall sound quality better than the 20s, as well as the noise reduction function to be better. I was not aware that when you manually focus the hearing aids in the “Hear in Noise”, card that the chip is bypassed? Where did you get that bit of information? Jabra’s documentation just sucks.
I too have a couple of weeks with the Jabra 30s which replaced my 2021 Jabras. The improvement in the hear in noise program is great. I have coffee every Wednesday with a friend in a noisy shop. Even sitting across from her, hearing her clearly was a challenge. With the 30s there’s no problem.
And I absolutely love having the broadcast from my television when I’m watching shows with accented English. The transmission covers my entire house so I can make a run to the kitchen or even a closet and still hear what’s happening in the show.
You can join and audit courses for free (you only have to pay if you want CEU credits). The courses are listed at various times, but, if you hunt around, you can stream them immediately.
I looked at the following, just to get some idea of what info the fitters receive.
ReSound Smart Fit 2.1: An Updated Software Version for a New ReSound Portfolio
I’m not that interested in what the hearing aid fitters know. However, I will probably have to call Jabra’s customer service to get the answer about the A/I in noise card, is cut out when using the speech focus function.
There are several options the HA fitter can make for hearing in noise. For intelligent noise tracker, where the DNN chip is used, I recommend choosing the maximum noise reduction rather than the default.
The aids can have up to four programs installed by the fitter. I opted to not have the music program but to have two different hear in noise programs with different settings, so I could see what works best for me.
If you want to adjust the direction of the microphones in noise, it can be done, but I believe the DNN chip is no longer active.
there are a lot of choices the fitter can make. I recommend having more than one hearing in noise program installed so you can compare options.
My Costco fitter seems to have pretty good understanding of how to program Jabra Pro 30’s and what he can do vs audiologists programming Resound Vivias so I will check with him what he thinks about the various hear-in-noise settings.
I like having a music program for listening to shows/movies through our 5.1 audio system where it does a pretty good job!
That said I don’t use it for actual music where it sucks! Streaming music is through Airpod Pro 2’s with hearing assist on (and using the from my Costco audio test). Music from LPs through a pretty good stereo system is problematic and I am still searching for the best solution…
I’m not that interested in what the hearing aid fitters know. However, I will probably have to call Jabra’s customer service to get the answer about the DNN A/I in noise card, is cut out when using the speech focus function.
Are you sure that what @chrisb meant by “If you want to adjust the direction of the microphones in noise, it can be done, but I believe the chip is no longer active.”?
I would have though speech clarity was more about pulling speech out of the noise and understood hear-in-noise was already focusing the beamforming to pick up people talking in front of you.
If speech clarity really doesn’t use the DNN chip that would be strange…
the DNN/Ai feature is called Intelligent Focus and this feature is only available for the rechargeable Vivia 9 (Akku)
You need to simulate Vivia 9 rechargeable ( VI960S-DRWC ) because only this having the Intelligent Focus feature , whereas the Vivia 9’s with replaceable batterie not having Intelligent Focus , the Vivia 9 with replaceable batterie have Clear Focus instead.
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So that confirms what I think we knew, that the chip is used when in Hear in Noise.
I don’t think it implied the DNN chip would not be used when using Speech Clarity in Hear in Noise (in fact I would be surprised if that was the case).
My understanding was that was @Flyboybob’s question based on @chrisb’s post?